Hello Ken,

I have found your contracts and mailing list to be of upmost help. Thanks!

Here is a question I have. I have a customer who is opening a very small

"Mini Mart". What are the requirements for me to provide a UL listed

Commercial Burg/ Fire Alarm System. Is the UL listing only for purposes of

getting up to a 20% insurance discount, or is there more to it. I do not

believe that the owner will want to go through the extra expense and have a

UL listed commercial Burg & Fire alarm panel. Can I provide a UL listed

Commercial Burg alarm panel that is not UL listed for Fire, but have smoke

detectors added on for convinience and not call the system a Fire Alarm

system? What if they only want a residential system installed?

Are the contracts for residential AND commercial, or is there one for each.

Thanks for any input you may have.

Jan Puetthoff

Owner

JP Security,

 

 

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Answer:

 

UL requirements mean a lot more than insurance discounts. UL is an

independent testing lab that sets standards that are adopted in many

jurisdictions as requirements. These standards include not only the type of

equipment that must be installed, but the manner in which the equipment is

installed, the service and sometimes inspections required and for alarms,

response time for guards.

Most jurisdictions have building codes, whether they are local or

statewide. You must be familiar with the building codes in your

jurisdiction for the installations and services you provide. Compliance

with UL will not be enough if the building codes provide for something

different. Although you could point to UL standards to establish industry

custom and standards, though customs and standards must take a back seat to

statutory requirements for particular installations and systems.

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So your first step is to check your building code, then UL, which may be

specified in your code.

Keep in mind that your contracts will not protect you if you ignore

statutory building code requirements, especially your failure to adhere to

those requirements is found to be the cause of the system deficiency. For

example, if specific wire is required you can not intentionally use

inferior wire and expect the contract provisions to protect you. You should

also note that I used the work "intentionally". If you are merely negligent

in your installation your contract should protect you. There is no

definitive line to cross separating intentional conduct from negligence,

which is why we have so many lawsuits against alarm companies.

I suppose the message here is that as a professional alarm company [ I see

you are in Kentucky and I don't have any state license listed on my web

site - so there may be no license requirements] you are charged with

knowing the system requirements in your jurisdiction. Since the subscriber

you mention is a commercial establishment you may find that there are

specific code requirements, especially for the fire system.

Absent any code requirements I would follow UL and NFPA requirements -

though keep in mind I am not an alarm tech.