KEN KIRSCHENBAUM, ESQ ALARM - SECURITY INDUSTRY LEGAL EMAIL NEWSLETTER / THE ALARM EXCHANGE You can read all of our articles on our website. Having trouble getting our emails? Change your spam controls and white list ken@kirschenbaumesq.com ******************************* Comment on prevailing industry standards and AHJ changes to code November 20, 2019 ******************************* Comment on prevailing industry standards from November 6, 2019 ************************** Ken Would the contractor that did not put pull stations at the back doors be able to win in a lawsuit due to being code required but not AJH? Jack DeBoer ************************** Response ************************** Talk about a rock and a hard place. For those who missed the article [and too lazy to find it on our website under Articles, I opined: “Prevailing industry standards can mean different things in different parts of the country. And an opinionated AHJ can certainly set standards that may be different than what you as a trained professional believes is appropriate. Some rules of thumb become apparent. Follow regulatory agency guidelines, especially if they have made their way into the building code or other statutory regulation Follow manufacturer guidelines unless you’ve got a very good reason not to Follow AHJ requirements, and get them in writing if you really disagree Follow your contract, which should not be inconsistent with the other rules” I am constrained by the question. What lawsuit? I can conjure up a few scenarios: * Lawsuit with the subscriber because the subscriber doesn’t want to pay * Lawsuit by subscriber because system wasn’t to code or wasn’t what AHJ wanted * Fines by AHJ or refusal or issue Certificate of Occupancy because system isn’t to code or AHJ specifications I think we start the analysis with this given: If the AHJ wants something not in the code, or interprets the code differently than you do, insist on getting the AHJ’s direction in writing, signed by the AHJ. Then, at least, we will have legitimate competing authorities. Next, another given: You must conform your contract, and it’s likely to be the Fire All in One [could be a Residential All in One because that also covers fire installation in residences]. Fire the contract calls for installation “to code” and the AHJ insists on changes, you not only have to get that direction from the AHJ in writing, you have to change your contract specifications to reflect that change. Your subscriber must agree to the change, and that change is going to state that it’s being made at the direction of the AHJ, a direction made in writing. What this process accomplishes is shifting responsibility for the installation to the AHJ or the subscriber, because one is demanding deviation from code and the other is agreeing to it. You are in the middle, and you better document that place between the rock and hard place. ************************* Webinar Notice: Title: contracts and insurance – identifying your risk in 2020 Date: November 25, 2019 at 2 PM Central time [3PM EST] Hosted by ESA Presenters: Sophia Dominguez, from ESA, Crystal Jacobs, from Security America and Ken Kirschenbaum, Esq Format: round table live video discussion and power point Who should attend: alarm company owners, monitoring center owners, risk managers Register Here: https://zoom.us/webinar/register/2615732472365/WN_nGQNtCosQjSPWzBL7_clIg ************************* To order up to date Standard Form Alarm / Security / Fire and related forms, click here:www.alarmcontracts.com ************************* CONCIERGE LAWYER SERVICE FOR THE ALARM INDUSTRY PROGRAM You can check out the program and sign up here: https://www.kirschenbaumesq.com/page/concierge or contact our Program Coordinator Stacy Spector, Esq at 516 747 6700 x 304. *********************** NOTICE: You can always read our Articles on our website at ww.kirschenbaumesq.com/page/alarm-articles *********************** THE ALARM EXCHANGE
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