KEN KIRSCHENBAUM, ESQ ALARM - SECURITY INDUSTRY LEGAL EMAIL NEWSLETTER / THE ALARM EXCHANGE You can read all of our articles on our website. Having trouble getting our emails? Change your spam controls and whitelist ken@kirschenbaumesq.com ********************** K&K Contracts updated to recognize all NRTLs / Register for Webinars September 12, 2023 **************************** K&K Contracts updated to recognize all NRTLs **************************** Ken I receive your newsletters and find the content very interesting, even though most is not directly applicable to me as I work for Intertek Testing Services NA Inc. We are a global Testing, Inspection and Certification (TIC) service company and are recognized as a NRTL (Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory) by OSHA. As such, we test and certify alarm equipment to ANSI/UL and other nationally recognized standards. Products we certify carry the ETL Listing mark. In addition to testing and listing alarm equipment, we also have an Alarm System Certification (ASC) Program for which we certify alarm installation/service companies and monitoring centers. Our ASC program is equivalent to UL Solutions’ Fire and Security Service Solution and Factory Mutual’s (FM) equivalent program. In talking with my inspectors who audit alarm companies for the ASC program, I have learned that many alarm contracts have verbiage that specifically calls out UL Solutions’ program to the exclusion of Intertek/ETL and FM. Since I can’t review your contracts without purchasing them, I am curious to know if your contracts call out only UL’s program. If so, can that be changed from UL only, to any NRTL appropriately qualified and accredited to offer the service? I appreciate your feedback regarding this and look forward to hearing from you. Regards, Darryl Engel, Sr. Sales Executive and Business Development Intertek Arlington Heights, IL 1 (847) 439-5667 ********************** Response *********************** Good points. The Standard Form Agreements have been updated to reference NRTL where appropriate. I also asked Darryl for some additional clarification and here is his response. I’d like to thank Darryl for his information and participation; we rarely hear from anyone with a NRTL and we should. ************** Additional comment by Darryl Engel from Intertek **************** Intertek issues ETL certificates to UL and NFPA standards and we do have a certificate fee also. I certainly would be happy to have a phone call to better explain our program if that would help. What confuses many people is the distinction between the UL standards, and UL the testing company. To UL’s credit, it has split its company into three separate entities; * UL Solutions, which is their testing and certification body that issues the UL certificates, * UL Standards & Engagement, which is their standards development body and publishes their UL and ULC standards, and * UL Research Institutes, which does research work in the safety world. Too often people mistake the reference to being Listed to a UL standard to mean it has to be certified by UL. In reality, any qualified NRTL can List product to UL standards, not just UL. This is why I ask for context as to how “UL” is being referenced in your contracts. If it’s referencing the UL standards, that’s okay. If it says it has to be UL Listed, that’s where I would like to see the change to NRTL Listed. Regarding Edison Testing Labs, a lot of people assume that’s what ETL stands for. Even though it was founded by Thomas Edison originally as the Lamp Testing Bureau, then later renamed to Electrical Testing Labs, it was never actually called Edison Testing Labs; It would make a better story though. I hope all of this makes sense. 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